I’m actually on Mike’s side. I don’t need to see that Batman cripples on a nightly basis. I can get that by the pool of humanity laying around him. The physicality of the fight is simply beyond Batman. He doesn’t care and neither should I. It happens too fast for me to even notice. That’s the mindset. Slowing things down simply takes me out of the moment. Even for the non-film buff, I don’t think they were cringing WITH the movie when Dan gives the thug a 3rd degree compound fracture, they’re cringing AT it. In the intro to Saving Private Ryan, guys are getting their heads blown off and I’m going “Oh my god! War is hell!” in Watchmen I’m going “ok, that’s just gross and stupid, why would they show me that?” Saving Private Ryan earned my suspension of disbelief. Watchmen didn’t. Obviously neither actor in either movie was actually injured, but in Watchmen I was painfully aware that it was fake and acting. I didn’t lose myself in the moment. That’s a failing.

you’re right about one thing. I think they were trying very hard to emulate the appeal of the 70s kung-fu movies. The problem is in the 70s, when Bruce Lee did that, I kinda went OMGHEBROKETHATGUYSNECK!!!! or OMGHEPULLEDOUTTHATGUYSHEART!!! again, they earned my suspension of disbelief. Also, cinema was at a time then where special effects made that easier. in jaded 2009, I kinda went “oh they’re trying to be bruce lee, ummm, yay… or something.”